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The Rhythm of Love: Enhancing Matrimony with Song - 10 Songs for Married Couples

August 08, 2023 Eric & Patsy Richards with Chris Byrd Season 1 Episode 11
The Rhythm of Love: Enhancing Matrimony with Song - 10 Songs for Married Couples
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The Rhythm of Love: Enhancing Matrimony with Song - 10 Songs for Married Couples
Aug 08, 2023 Season 1 Episode 11
Eric & Patsy Richards with Chris Byrd

Ever wondered about the secret sauce for a thriving marriage? Tune in, as we journey through the melodic lanes of love songs, created especially for married couples. Joined by Minister Chris Bird, a stalwart of the gospel music industry, we explore the transformative power of music in enhancing the bond between spouses and setting the mood for those intimate moments.

Throughout our banter, we present you with a curated list of ten songs, each a resonating note of love and affection. From the soulful "Far From Turtle" by Bob James to the sensual "Sexual Healing" by Marvin Gaye, we touch upon the intrinsic effect of these classics on couples. As a special treat, Chris relays his inspiring journey of intertwined music and marriage, giving us a peek into how he found his musical muse and crafted love songs that resonate with many couples. 

However, it's not all roses. We delve deeper into the challenges, addressing how distractions like pornography can hamper the intimate harmony of a marriage, emphasizing the importance of setting boundaries. In the context of a Christian marriage, we underscore the need for fostering a deep connection and a respectful atmosphere. Wrapping up our session, we indulge in a lively discussion on our favorite love songs, dissecting their lyrics, and elaborating how they can help couples stay connected. So come on board as we navigate through the beautiful symphony of love, music, marriage, and the sparks that bind them together.

Watch the live show on Youtube.

Follow us on Facebook & Instagram at @marriageinreallifepodcast

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Ever wondered about the secret sauce for a thriving marriage? Tune in, as we journey through the melodic lanes of love songs, created especially for married couples. Joined by Minister Chris Bird, a stalwart of the gospel music industry, we explore the transformative power of music in enhancing the bond between spouses and setting the mood for those intimate moments.

Throughout our banter, we present you with a curated list of ten songs, each a resonating note of love and affection. From the soulful "Far From Turtle" by Bob James to the sensual "Sexual Healing" by Marvin Gaye, we touch upon the intrinsic effect of these classics on couples. As a special treat, Chris relays his inspiring journey of intertwined music and marriage, giving us a peek into how he found his musical muse and crafted love songs that resonate with many couples. 

However, it's not all roses. We delve deeper into the challenges, addressing how distractions like pornography can hamper the intimate harmony of a marriage, emphasizing the importance of setting boundaries. In the context of a Christian marriage, we underscore the need for fostering a deep connection and a respectful atmosphere. Wrapping up our session, we indulge in a lively discussion on our favorite love songs, dissecting their lyrics, and elaborating how they can help couples stay connected. So come on board as we navigate through the beautiful symphony of love, music, marriage, and the sparks that bind them together.

Watch the live show on Youtube.

Follow us on Facebook & Instagram at @marriageinreallifepodcast

Speaker 1:

Yes, we're so glad that you're here. I'm Eric and I'm boss, lady P. All right, we're so glad that you could join us for marriage in real life. This is our pop-up session, right, it is All right. Yeah, we wanted to do this one. I wanted to make sure we keep our listeners involved, and this is one of the subjects we're going to talk about tonight. That somebody, some people that ask you know about, and so it's a lot of things that's been happening and, you know, want to give a shout out to our, because our grandbaby is growing. Yes, yes, my grandbaby, yeah, my, is really growing. Our daughter moved to Tallahassee, so we give a shout out to them when they was here this weekend, and Juicy is doing good and everybody. So we just want to give a shout out to all of our children. All right, they're doing good. All right, you know, natalie doing good in Chicago, and Jordan and Malika and Peaches, erica, man, everybody's doing good. So I'm just going to give them a little applause right there.

Speaker 2:

God is blessing, yeah.

Speaker 1:

God is blessing, he is blessing, he is blessing. So we thank God for for blessing our kids. All right, so we're ready to get into you, ready to get into this? Yeah, okay, I'm ready to get into it as well. All right, so. All right, so we're talking about 10 songs for married couples. All right, 10 songs for married couples. Now we want to preface this here. I just want to preface this. I want to say, I want to say that you know, we understand, as Christians, that you know that you can't listen to every, any and everything. Right, we understand that, we know it. You know it's nothing specifically in the Bible that says you cannot listen to it. Right, but because it's not in the Bible that we cannot listen to it, that doesn't mean that we should do something Right. And so we know that music influences people. Music influences people and, well, we're getting ready to talk about tonight. We hope that music influenced you for your husband and wife, which God created. Right For love making. Right, okay, right Okay. He created for love making.

Speaker 1:

He created, he didn't create it for the three level word he created for love making Amen, all right, you got to go to the up a room, all right, all right.

Speaker 2:

For production, for creating, for creation.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Right, okay. So what about when you're in? Create no more.

Speaker 1:

What.

Speaker 2:

God is okay with that too.

Speaker 1:

Right. No, god still wants you to. You know, he created it for, for love making, for relationships between the husband and wife. Yeah, so, if you, if you finish creating, you still got to build that relationship, that you know that, one on one time, one on one, all right, all right, all right, all right. So, yeah, so he wants us, he wants us, he wants us to, you know, to be a part of that. That's, that's what he wants.

Speaker 2:

A form of communication to you. Know, I mean, love making is a part of the form of communication to your significant other, to your husband or to your wife. Okay, I would like to say that.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so love making is a form of communication between your husband and wife. How's that? How is that? You know, because we always talk about communication here. We always talk about that. So how is that a form of communication? That's right, yeah, come on.

Speaker 2:

Come on with it, Because you know when, if your spouse is coming on to you, that makes you feel sexy, that makes you feel like he wants you. He's attracted to you. Okay so all those things go in and with the whole form of the art of making love.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Unless you know that you're still desired. All right, okay, okay, I'm just gonna walk by the kitchen while you find up an egg and say, hey, I desire you? Oh, yes, that's the way that he can let her know that he desires her. And advice verse because you know, you know you know you have to let you guys know that you're desired. Right. We're still attracted to you.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Something that you know, that thing that made me go off.

Speaker 1:

Okay, the first time, all right, all right.

Speaker 2:

The first time I met you. That reminds me that you know. I want to share that with you. Okay, I want you to feel good. I want you to feel desired.

Speaker 1:

I want you to feel okay, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, I like that. I like all that. That's, that's, that's very, that's, that's very good. I see a Ola, ola, my, my classmate, is on here. All right, yeah, we want to see the shot out to Ola. She up there and, I think, indiana somewhere. Yeah, she up there in the cold, you know, I mean, it ain't cold now, but it's up there, all right. And so I want to give a shout out to her. Who's watching with us? All right, so we're getting ready to do 10 songs and we're going to just preference this. We're just going to say we do have an interview tonight with minister Chris Bird, all right, and from. He made an album in 2006. That man that's that's his photo is for the saints. Yeah, it's for the saints, all right.

Speaker 1:

So I was reading this article here and it had something to say about, about music. We know that David and Tammy Mann they made a music song for married couples as well, a gospel Christian song. I think I told you this story one time before. I was talking to Ben Tankard, way back in, when we had lift them up production Right, and I was talking to him and he and he was saying. He said you can tell. He said back in 2000,. I don't forget how long ago it was, it was a long time ago, it's before 2006. He would say he said to me he says I could tell my wife I love her. I can, you know, I can tell her all day in the church. I can tell her all day that I love her. But if I make a song and put a beat behind it this was old, you know then I'm. I got a secular song, you know, I put music behind it and I say that I love her, you know, then that's the song. But then again we read song of Solomon. We know what song of Solomon is all about. You know some people, you know you got some people that say the song of Solomon is between Christ and the church. No, it was between, you know, solomon and his wife, you know. You know which is a good thing, and we want to talk about song of Solomon too. That's a good, that's a good chapter to talk about with married. So, but I preface that to say that you know.

Speaker 1:

You know David said it's making baby music, david about the album. And Tamalus said, even though you know you were, we were talking about love. It wasn't nasty love music, all right. David also says it's about music to make love to, not to have the three letter word David. That, david, totally Christian post. And then he joked, he said this. He joked, he said that the people are probably listening to R Kelly and Ron Osley when trying to get romantic, all right, he says.

Speaker 1:

However, their music is coming from a different place. You know what's what we represent or who we represent. You know that our love for each other is 30 years strong and growing, so we wanted to make music that people can have those intimate moments with, and not listen and be like girl, let me slap you, bump you, pop you. All that stuff Right, right Now. I want to tell you this you know it is all right. And one thing I tell you this you know, christian, gonna be listening to amazing grace. We listen to a very precious Lord. Take my hand, you know, all right, I want you to take my hand, but you know it ain't precious Lord. Take my hand, all right. You know, or you know, or you know somebody. You know he's able, all right, yeah. So you know you don't want to know he's able. You know, we want. You know, you know, we know he's able, but you know so. But he says and this is what this person says in the he says, technically, even a married Christian couple that has been together for decades could still want to slap you, bump, you, pop you every once in a while, every once in a while, we got to get. You know, you want to get a little freaky, you know, ain't no wrong. Okay, ain't no wrong. Our Kelly said it ain't no wrong with a bumping grind. There you go, all right, all right Now. All right, we ready, we ready, we ready to, we ready to get started here. All right.

Speaker 1:

So these songs that we picked tonight, passing Pick 10, I picked 10, they're not necessarily in the order, you know, from 10 to one. All right, I would say my last song that I'm saving is number one. I would say that I'm going to tell y'all that now, my last song, my number one song, I'm going to save it for last. All right, all right. And, like I said, we got Chris Bird here. He'd be here at eight o'clock pm, so we got 20 minutes to get through five songs. All right, all right. So you want me to go first or you want to go first. All right, okay, my, my, one of the top 10,. One of the top 10 is when we by Tank.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, okay, I know that song, you know that song when we, you know, I can't say the words, can't say the words, but when we, now, when I hear that song, that song drives me to you know, think about you and think about you know, when we yes, it's getting hot in here already already All right, when we, when we all right. So that's my first song that I want to throw out there, when we all right. Now, if you, if you're listening to us and you want to put in your comments, you know, putting your, putting in the comments, putting the section and I'll put in about your songs. All right, All right, all right, show me your, give me yours.

Speaker 2:

Okay, one of my top 10, well, the top five of my top 10s is Do Me Baby by Prince.

Speaker 1:

Oh, now you're talking about my boy now.

Speaker 2:

And I just want to be done oh.

Speaker 1:

Jesus, all right, all right, I got it. Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes sir, all right, do Me Baby. So do you like the Melissa Morgan version or the different you know?

Speaker 2:

all the way seven, nine minutes.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, mm, hmm, got that 12 inch single version of that. Yeah, that's what you like. All right, cool, all right, so I like that. I like that. All right, all right. Now this next song here. You probably don't remember it, or people who listening they probably don't know this song, but I love this song and it really really gets me thinking about you and love making. All right, that song is called. This is the name of it. It's called Far From Turtle and it's by Bob James. It's a jazz song, but, man, when I listened to that song, man, I just woo. I love it. Yeah, far From Turtle. I mean I would. Are we going to try to put some links in the bottom here of these songs? But Far From Turtle is a song that you should listen to. All right, all right, so that's that's. That's my second one. All right, go ahead.

Speaker 2:

Whitney Houston, you give good love Okay.

Speaker 1:

Whitney Houston, you give good love. You give good love, All right, Whitney Houston, All right. So you like Whitney Houston, you give good love, All right. Why you like Whitney Houston? You give love.

Speaker 2:

I'm a Whitney fan. I like everything she does, but this one in particularly. I mean she's in this song. It's like she's letting her significant other know that, regardless of everything, you give me the love that I'm looking for. Okay, and that love is good, All right, that's what I want.

Speaker 1:

All right, all right. Okay, all right, all right, all right. You give good love. I hope I give you good love, baby, all right, all right, all right, all right. Cool, all right, all right. So the next one. This is the next song here. Like you say, you know you get it. This next one here, boy is a good one here. It's called Freakin' you by Jodecy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, freakin' you by Jodecy that that song there, it'll get you going.

Speaker 2:

It'll get you going. All right, Let me slap you oh flip around.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, uh huh, all right, all right. Okay, all right. What's your next one? Oh, my neck. Just want to remind people we got Chris Bird coming on at eight o'clock. Eight o'clock, all right.

Speaker 2:

Go ahead. Oh, I got so many good ones down here, uh huh, Let me go with something a little bit Sexual healing Marvin Gaye.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you went old classic on me, yeah, that's old classic. Sexual healing, marvin Gaye, all right. Okay, sexual healing, marvin Gaye, all right, I like that. I like that. All right, that's old classic, all right. Now this next one here, all right. But you can tell, you know, I must be a freak, you know, or something.

Speaker 2:

I need to be marketing.

Speaker 1:

You need to be marketing. I ain't got no pen. I ain't got no pen Cause. That's why I'm going up, all right. The next song is by Silk, called Freak Me.

Speaker 2:

What is wrong with you? I don't know.

Speaker 1:

What's going on here?

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah yeah, silk Freak Me boy that there. Yeah yeah, ding ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding ding.

Speaker 2:

All right, so my next one.

Speaker 1:

All right, all right.

Speaker 2:

Let me see, I should have knew this Insatiable Prince.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you know that's my boy. You know that's my boy. Insatiable. Now, that is a song, right there.

Speaker 2:

That song is sensual, it's sexy. You know just the way he sings. It just really kind of brain, the ambience, if you set the mood and you got candles going and rose petals and you're a mosquito or whatever.

Speaker 1:

You're right, right.

Speaker 2:

And you plan that. You got. You know you got it nice that this song really sets the mood Insatiable.

Speaker 1:

Okay, insatiable. Okay, I like insatiable, you know that Right. So this next one here. You like this one? All right, love me in a special way by the barge.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Love me in a special way, all right.

Speaker 2:

Yes, oh the door, yes, extended version Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can the head of yourself. There's Ola, all right. So the barge, the barge voice, especially L. But when they were a group man, they were, they were awesome, they were awesome and they did have some good love making songs. All right For married couples, right? No, because we're not talking about single people, right, we don't, we don't talk, but we're Christians. All right, we talking about for married couples in the upper room, all right, so love me in a special way. What's your next one? What's your next one?

Speaker 2:

I'm looking down my list, mm-hmm. So sex with me, rihanna.

Speaker 1:

Oh Jesus, the scared, the wind Rihri on me. I like it, you like it.

Speaker 2:

I like it.

Speaker 1:

You like it? Mm-hmm, wow, yeah, yeah, I wish we could play some of the snippets of these songs, but you know we don't want to get banned from YouTube, we just can't do that. But why? Why? All you like that song?

Speaker 2:

Well, I really can't really say much of it. Well, because any she says sex with me is so amazing.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

But I have to say that I like the song because it's I mean, it's my partner. That makes it amazing.

Speaker 1:

I like that. I like that, I like that, mm-hmm, you know, and again, so we got those five. We got those five, all right, you know, as we said before, you know, this is all about between a man and a woman, between a husband and a wife, right, mm-hmm, love making should be a very part of your marriage, right, it should be.

Speaker 2:

It's just as important as communication. It's a part of communication.

Speaker 1:

It's a part of communication and it should be. When one person is not holding up to their thing, they should want to try everything they can to uphold their part. Absolutely Right, because the only time that we are not supposed to be, you know, making love or everything, we should get permission from one another. Right, as a married couple. If you're going on fasting and praying, right, hey, you know, pat say I'm getting ready to fast and I'm getting ready to pray for something, so we're going to hold off, you know, because the Bible says your body is my body, my body is your body, right, yes, right, and so that's the only time we should be holding, withholding, withholding, making love. We should not withhold making love as a punishment. Absolutely Right, right, no, he can be saying you know, no, I ain't going to give you none, you know, unless you do this, you know, it's no if and are.

Speaker 2:

You're like, hey, buckle with that credit card.

Speaker 1:

Oh boy, yeah, it's not like that. You know we don't do that. You know it's, it's it's, you know it's, it's something intimate, it is intimate, intimate. See, love making between a man and a woman is intimate. That's why you know you should not bring other people. You know, I believe, you know Jesus.

Speaker 1:

Jesus was very, you know, he was God, he was a very smart man, you know, and he was saying you know, look, don't be bringing other people in there, because when you bring other people, when you get off or to porn or whatever like that, when you start watching these things and you start doing, you know, especially like with porn, you start wanting your mate to do what you see on TV. You know, at one leg here and one leg up there, and this is all this kind of stuff. You know, because that's what you're watching in porn. You know, and that's why you, you, you must anybody's watching.

Speaker 1:

If you're addicted to porn, I mean I pray for you that you know you, you get off of that addiction. You know, because you don't want to bring that into a marriage and you don't want that to be a part of your marriage, because you want to, like you said earlier, you want to explore your partner. You know it's between you and your partner, not nobody else. You know, and that's how it should be. That's how. That's why you don't want to bring nobody into it, you know? Hey, look, if you want to bring whips and chains and all that kind of stuff, I see your face now.

Speaker 2:

Let's you two agree.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, let's you two agree. You two agree, you know, so you know, but you got to agree on that thing. You know, and that's my only thing, is that we know, we know from experiencing the early church, the early church did not talk about love making between a man and a woman. I told you, I told you one time before on our podcast, that I never did see my mom and dad showing any kind of affection. They didn't show any affection, you know, holding hands or anything. I didn't see that right. But we I pray that our kids saw that with us, that we hold hands, we kiss, even though they say ew and all that kind of stuff. But they saw that we, you know that we showed affection to one another because that's what it should be. That's what it should be. And then, like I said, the early church didn't talk about that. The preacher didn't talk about it, the mothers didn't talk about it, the deacons didn't talk about it. The trustees, what did they say? What was their thing about the three letter word?

Speaker 2:

Save yourself for marriage.

Speaker 1:

Save yourself for marriage. Girls, keep your dress down, yeah, girls.

Speaker 2:

You dress down and your pants up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah pants up, boys. Keep your pants up. That's it. That was it. That was it. That was all you're going to get right? And so the only time you learned about the three letter word was from somebody else. Your friends, your friends, come on now your uncle.

Speaker 2:

Your dirty magazine oh yeah, right underneath the bathroom. Oh Jesus, we like. Oh my God what is this?

Speaker 1:

You know you're holding up the dirty magazines and your uncle telling you stuff and your cousin talking. You know stuff like that. So it's not right. The church should be talking about it and the church should be the one that's saying hey, this is between a man and a woman, a husband and a wife.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, I agree.

Speaker 1:

Husband and a wife. You know, and, and and a. If you save yourself for husband and wife, and both of y'all don't know anything, that's a good thing to learn. Right, all right. So I know it's a seven fifty three, all right, and I'm going to see, if you know, let's hit one more song. Let's hit one more song before before we bring Chris on. All right, all right, we're going to hit one more song before we bring Chris on.

Speaker 1:

My next, my next song that I love, and I know you're going to agree with this one. You ain't got it on your list, but I know anybody out there, anybody that tells me this ain't. This ain't one of these songs that are that that when you listen to it, the Secret Garden with Barry White, I'll be sure, james Ingram and L DeBarch I ain't talking about this new Secret Garden, you know, with the young cats, they, they, it's pretty good, but you know the old cats is the one that's doing it. You know Barry White, but when you hear that voice, barry White voice, you know that's it. Yeah, that's it. You know, I'll be sure, james Ingram, l DeBarch, the Secret Quincy Jones did that song and you know, like you say, you got to hit the long version.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know the short I think music was music.

Speaker 2:

It was, you know, it was good music. And now it's just a lot of stuff added in the music that was. It was more. It seemed to be more genuine.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, you know, that's so the Secret Garden, that's the Secret Garden. That was it, man Secret Garden. All right, come on, can you not?

Speaker 2:

stop singing.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I'm not going to sing every song. No, I'm not going to sing every song.

Speaker 2:

I want to go with motivation. Oh, with Lil Rain. I like the remix.

Speaker 1:

Oh, motivation.

Speaker 2:

I like that song because in that song she is encouraging him to go for it. Like you got this, I got your back.

Speaker 1:

And I would tell you that's one of my songs too. Oh, really, yeah, it's on my list too. Motivation, oh, okay, yes, sir, I love that song.

Speaker 2:

Motivation, I like this song because she's encouraging him, and sometimes we have to encourage our significance. Let them know you're doing a good job. Hang it up, baby. No, we got this. Go, go go.

Speaker 1:

You know, you the one, oh God, you the one. Yeah, yeah, you gotta, you gotta, come on. Yeah, go, go, go. You know, well, you introduced me to that song, yeah, and now I fell in love with that song. Man, that's, yeah, that's, that's one of my top 10 too.

Speaker 2:

We were on a little road trip and I say, hey, babe, you ever heard this song turn it up? You got it. Just listen to the words.

Speaker 1:

Right, right right.

Speaker 2:

And um yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

As a matter of fact, it's on my playlist.

Speaker 1:

Now again, these songs I'm gonna say throughout these songs are for married couples only, Right? You know, when you out there single and stuff, you shouldn't be listening. You shouldn't be listening to these type of things. They would drive you to do some crazy things, Right it depends on where your relationship is with Christ. Okay, all right.

Speaker 2:

I have to say that because a lot of people feel like, oh, christians shouldn't listen to certain music and Christians shouldn't watch certain movies. And Christians, you know this, that any other. But my thing is, you know where your relationship is with the Lord is going to determine where you, where you fall that on your on your list of music. It's the same way as if you know that the Bible says don't be drunk with wine and you're alcoholic, don't go. Don't go buying alcohol because that's gonna trigger you. If you have a problem with with being with sex addiction or highly you know, sexual, don't go listen to stuff that's gonna get you in the mood Because that ain't gonna work with you. So you have to really know where your relationship is and where your level of maturity is in the Lord.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

When you choose stuff to listen to, and that's just my personal opinion, you know that, you know I agree.

Speaker 1:

As a pastor, I agree with that. You know, like, a certain things you can watch certain things. You know certain. I know Christian people that watch certain movies that I said, oh no, I can't watch that, you know I. Just because it's it's not for me, I just can't do that. Certain people can listen to certain music. I said, oh no, that ain't none of me, you know, that's I just can't listen to one. I can't understand it to they talking about stuff, you know, if I do understand they talking about stuff that I don't agree with and I don't want in my spirit, right, you know. But, like I said, we're talking about songs, that when it's it's you and your significant other and when I say significant, or I'm talking about your marriage, significant other you're sitting in the bedroom, you got the candles down, you know, you know, and it's something that you are listening to together. Right, there's something you listen to together. Let me just say this though All right.

Speaker 2:

The craziest thing that my mom do now. My mom sold out for the Lord Sold out, she sold out, she sold out. She won't even not come to church in knee highs.

Speaker 1:

No, yeah, she's gonna come, yes, right.

Speaker 2:

But my mom will be watching a horror movie with her Bible on her lap and the commercial. Come on, she read her Bible and the commercials over, she go back to watch her move and I'm like how do you do that? Why? Why are you watching that? That's just crazy. It's all that ain't real. But this, this here in my lap, this is real, this real.

Speaker 1:

Now I was like wow, yeah, that's a level maturity, that's a level maturity level, maturity, yeah, and you write your mom is he gonna, you know, sweat your mom now Because you know your mom, because you know your mom know it was nothing but God that brought her out, I said, when you know, and nothing but God, and nobody can sway you, nobody can sway you. All right, we get ready to bring Chris Bird on. We're getting ready to bring on Chris Bird on. All right, we're getting ready to bring him on and and talk to him a little bit about his, his album and everything like that. All right, hello, chris, are you there?

Speaker 4:

Yes, sir.

Speaker 1:

All right. Hey.

Speaker 4:

Yes, sir.

Speaker 1:

We glad that to have you on with us tonight. Hey, you know, we bought your CD 2006. We got the version with the, not the red but the black, you know.

Speaker 4:

You got the original version.

Speaker 1:

Yes, sir, yes sir, you know we got the original version All right Between the sheets from Chris Bird's collection of songs in the key of love, volume one. I just want to tell everybody you need to get it, you need to get this, you need, you know, you need to get it. So, chris, tell us, you know, I know you sent me your bio and I'm telling you he's the Grammy nominated, multiple Stella war Winner, producer and everything like that. But just tell us a little bit about yourself.

Speaker 4:

Well, I'm from Toledo, ohio. I grew up from a musical family of six. All the boys played and all the girls sang and so I just kind of watched them. I was the only one that didn't take lessons and my brothers all took lessons. So when they came home and I watched what they did and then I picked it up and so anything I learned it was just kind of learning by ear. And from that point, you know, I grew into just listening to music on the radio and just picking it up and playing in church. We were always around music and in church, so that's all we knew. But as a teenager I got married early and hooked up with Bishop Lance Allen at the age of 19. And so I started.

Speaker 4:

I was the music director of minister of music at his church and from that grew into playing for the Rans Island group and writing and producing and all of that. So that's how a lot of the recording started, even though I did my own music even before I started producing for there. I was always kind of, you know, into doing that. But I did a lot of my own records as well. But some of the Grammy nominations and Stella, those came from producing those records. So you know, rans Island group has actually won several Stellars and been nominated for Grammys and those were records that I produced. So just proud about that. But you know, in the midst of all of the records that I did gospel records, praise and worship records I did this love scene.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, yes. We thank God for you. We really thank God. We were just reminding ourselves when we listened to the beginning of it, with you and the fellas Y'all was talking. That was a really funny scene and we loved that. So what inspired you to write this album? What inspired you to do this album?

Speaker 4:

Well, I guess first I had to say my wife Okay, she, she's definitely what inspired me and we've been. We just celebrated 40 years of marriage.

Speaker 1:

Whoa, I got to give you applause on that one. Congratulations, congratulations.

Speaker 4:

Thank you, thank you, yeah, and so it's been. You know, it's been wonderful. Of course. Of course marriage has ups and downs. First, you know, maybe five to seven years was rough because I was, you know, I was young, I got married very young, so I was immature. But after that, you know, I started to mature and really appreciate what God had given me and learn how to treat her right and learn how to be a good husband. But you know, of course she was my greatest inspiration.

Speaker 4:

But it's funny how this came about, because I'm one who I'm a worshiper first, when it comes to even my music. I love praising, praise and worship music. I love writing praise and worship music and a lot of times in my private time with God, you know, I'm praying and I'm sitting in my instrument playing and I'll sing to him, and a lot of times that's how my music comes. You know, when I get into his presence, the music just flows and I start hearing songs and start writing songs just being in the presence of God. And so a lot of the music that we've done and we've recorded came just from spending time with God. And so in those times as I'm writing songs, praising, worship songs, all of a sudden I'm hearing stuff like you bring out the wild side.

Speaker 1:

Yes, sir, yeah sir. Now I'm going to tell you that's my favorite, yeah.

Speaker 4:

Put your one up room. Tonight I'm hearing this and I'm like God, what is this? I'm like say hello, I'm going to refute you. You know, I'm in the presence of God and all of a sudden, these songs is coming to my and I'm like what is this? And, you know, I just kind of push it to the side, you know. And then it kept happening. It happened several times and I'm like, okay, god, what is this? There's something wrong with me. And he told me. He said I want you to write some love songs from my perspective, from a biblical perspective, just for married couples. Wow.

Speaker 4:

And so, you know, I kind of wrestle with it, because that ain't what I'm used to doing. I've never really done that before and I wrestle with it for a little bit. But I just went on and started doing it. I was like, okay, so I went to the studio, started laying the tracks and once I, you know, I put some other, some of my friends together that were married. So everybody that worked on the project had to be married. Okay, good, good, good. And so once I did that, got it all finished, mixed and mastered, I let my pastor here, okay, and because I wanted to make sure she agreed with it and was okay with it. So when she heard it she kind of, you know, looked, bumped her eyes a little bit and was like wow. But after she listened to it all she was like yes, I love it, this is God. So after that I knew I was good.

Speaker 4:

And of course I'm there's others here, like my brother, he's a preacher as well. You know some other people that have walked with me Bishop Rand, sialen, of course, you know. But you know, just getting their endorsement on it gave me a lot of confidence in knowing. Okay, I did hear from God, and so that's kind of how it happened. You know, because and it's funny, because the record label that I was signed with at the time, you know, I just did, I think the album we had just recorded was next level it's called next level, chris Burdentree victory.

Speaker 4:

And so I Was at the end of my course with that label and when I presented it to them, they were like, um, what is this? This, this is a you can't do, is you can't put this out? Well, this is what God gave me, you know. I know it's this one, it ain't what you guys are used to. And they were like, well, no, you're gonna ruin your career and we don't want to. You know, they were very conservative, you know, which is that's fine, but they didn't want no parts of it. They like, if you're gonna put this out, then we're gonna, we're gonna, terminate our agreement, wow, wow. I'm like I hate that you gonna, that you feel that way, but I Gotta do what God told me to do, right, and so From that point on, I'm, you know, shopping it to other labels, and I had a few labels that were interested, but they wanted to change some things, like they wanted to change the packaging and, just, you know, take off the Perennial advisory married couples only.

Speaker 4:

Wow, that's what God gave me, and I didn't want it to be, I Didn't want it to be deceptive, to where anybody pick it up and you know, or any children pick it up, that, or anybody that's not of age, not married. This is for married couples, yes, and the way, even though if you're not married, is educational, and they can be a tool to help you Understand what it's all about. But I wanted to make sure that they knew this is what it was, and so I had to do it the way God told me to do it, and that's what actually got me to start my own life, and so that's what we did and we put it out.

Speaker 1:

Wow, wow, man, that's, that's awesome. So what is your favorite song on the album?

Speaker 4:

Oh Boy, I got so many. Wow, I do love wild side, but it's like between the sheets. You know, I love that one In love with you. Dance with me, dance with me is one of my favorite, and it's because I'm Wrapping, that's something that's kind of a little different for me, kind of out of my element. Okay, I'm doing like a poetic rap, so I kind of really, I really love that song. Okay, it's so many. I got a lot of favorites on there.

Speaker 1:

Okay, all right, I saw when will volume to come out?

Speaker 4:

You know this in volume one to two thousand, say this time volume to know you know it's been overdue for so long and I tell you I really Want to do it and I'm probably gonna do it. So We've been talking more about it here recently. But it's just Having so many other projects come at me and other work that I've had to do and produce for other other artists, a lot of the music that I wanted to put out myself. I've had to put it to the side. Okay, the workload that I've had in producing for other artists. But that's kind of changing now and so I think I might do something real soon. I can't, I'm not gonna say when, all right, we're looking forward to it now.

Speaker 4:

I just gotta come up with some more songs. The guys got it. Guys gotta download those songs into my spirit again.

Speaker 1:

Okay, all right. So I would tell you this we're gonna commit to pray and fast so the Lord can give you some song. All right, we are your team. We are your prayer team. All right, we are your prayer team the Lord to give you some songs. All right, pat. You got any questions you want to ask?

Speaker 2:

No, I'm just excited to hear how it all came about. When I tell you how much I Love this CD, I think we burned it out. We wouldn't let our kids listen to it and they were like, why we can't listen to it? We like married couples. Only when you get married will let you borrow it. Mm-hmm. They would look at it like nope, put that down as a matter of fact. I think we had to hide it one time.

Speaker 1:

Yes, we did.

Speaker 2:

When you say that they can't, they wanted even the more we got. We, we put emphasis on it it's for the married couples only and they truly that did, and they, they waited out. So I'm excited to hear, I'm excited to hear that there's actually a volume to coming out. Possibly I'm gonna be praying and fasting on that, and my favorite song on there was Song of Solomon poetic song of Solomon.

Speaker 4:

That song we actually were reading from the Bible. Yes from the Bible. I mean, it was, it was, I believe it. If I'm not mistaken, it was the message version and you know, song of Solomon is very, very explicit.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it is.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, and if we had so much fun doing it, yeah. So I think that I will say that's my favorite.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's okay. Yeah, that is yeah. But you know mine, that's my favorite. But I have another favorite. Like you said, don't bring out the wild side boy. I love that. Yeah, yeah, you probably can tell from that that if you were listening early, you can tell from the songs that I picked you know like freak me and freaking in you that I got to have wild side on some.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

But Chris is it's been fun and Tell us how people can reach you, how they can connect with you and where they can get this CD. Is it? And on our notes still screaming and still available? So tell us a little bit about it.

Speaker 4:

Well, yes, it is Available on online everywhere. Wherever you get your music now, because now I don't think a lot of people buy CDs, but if you still do, I have something in my warehouse but it is available online. So, if you get, you know through Apple music or Spotify, amazon, however you get your music, it is Available and you can reach me on. I'm on Facebook, youtube, so make sure you follow me, make sure you follow me on Apple music as well, and Spotify, pandora, all of those Places, but inside Chris Bird, you can find me on, like Facebook, youtube and Instagram, all of that, and I'm just kind of getting used to all of this, this new way I Music. You know I mean Different, but you know I just trying to stay, stay ahead of the time.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, I would tell you this before we let you go. I mean, there's, there's been other People, other Christian artists that that has done. You know music, you know for married couples, you know I mentioned David and Tamela man, and I know daughter TD Jakes is, you know TD Jakes is dead, one and um, and it seems to me that I would tell you this, I'm gonna be honest, yours is the best, because when I, when I listen to this, I don't hear feeling moving. I don't, I don't hear, you know, I don't hear that. I, you know, when I, when I and I'm gonna be honest when I listen, like the About listening to the other people, I hear their name, I hear take me to the king. I just hear that, that voice in the background. I hear, you know, with TD Jakes, I hear get ready, get ready, get ready. I, you know, with that, but with your CD, I Don't hear feel him moving. I don't hear, I hear an actual. You know, it's just, it's just, it's just so good.

Speaker 4:

I love that CD, I love it man, you know what that means so much because I know that a lot of people, when I, when I actually did this, and Before they bought the CD, they was nervous because it's like we don't feel right Listening to this. We were so used to hearing you sing gospel, you know, and even my, my kids, of course you know they weren't supposed to listen to it. They and they did, but they didn't want to listen, like now, dad, we can't, we can't listen to that, you know. But of course my youngest daughter's married, so I know she's listening to it Because I think we gave it to her as a wedding present, actually before that, and my oldest daughter probably has to. But you know, I even told them if you do listen to it, that's fine because it's gonna give you education. So you know, but you know that that's that's always that that means a lot to hear somebody say you know I don't hear feeling moving or the songs that that I normally do so so that I like.

Speaker 1:

All right. Well, we're gonna give another applause for Chris Burr. We want to thank. Thank you, Chris from for hanging out with us a little bit and you know we wish you well. And again, we're part of the prayer team and we're gonna be praying and fasting for volume 2 to come out soon. All right, I appreciate that.

Speaker 4:

Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1:

All right, god bless you, god bless. Yes, that was Chris Burr. All right, all right. So now we're gonna finish up ours. Man, what a great interview. Huh, yeah, that was our. That was our first time doing the interview. Babe, I give me some, give me some. That's my baby. Yeah, that's it, that's it right there. All right, hey, so we're gonna finish up again. We want everybody to get this from Chris Burr collection songs in the key of love, volume one All right, so, all right. I stopped at a secret garden. My next song I got what we got, we got. Well, we, we agree with motivation, right, we agree with motivation. So that's that, that's a wash. Okay, all right, all right. My next song is permission by Roe James.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I like that, I like that permission, that permission, I have your permission.

Speaker 1:

All right, baby, all right, all right, nah, all right, okay, all right, what's yours, what's yours?

Speaker 2:

Well, I already said, chris Chris Bird, um poetic song of Solomon. I really, really like that song is just and you know, and back in the day they used to actually put the lyrics in the in the cover. I like this because, you know, so many people have this whole misconception of songs of Solomon. Right right in the Bible, in the way he portrayed it in the CD, I was like, okay, I really, you know, I can relate.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I relate, it was relatable Um it was reading from the scripture man it was right from where God.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah loving your significant other yeah that is definitely like one of my yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, we would tell anybody. If you want to listen to To something about song of Solomon, go to Chris Bird. What number is that? One number is that?

Speaker 2:

number they in Roman numbers they're about 10, 10.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay, and, and listen to poetic song of Solomon. I mean, I'm telling you, you as a Christian, you hear the words of God, but it is just something like was it just something that is between you and your spouse? Man, I'm telling you that's, that's a good one. All right, all right, all right. So I Think somebody already talked about this older, did she? Yeah, she went ahead. All right, a door, a Door by Prince boy. I'm telling you, when that little jokie hit them, high notes man. I tell you, man, it makes you want to. All right, all right.

Speaker 2:

I hear you baby.

Speaker 1:

All right, you hear me. All right, I'm lonely. You got all All yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, even this new stuff. All right, go ahead.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I did um you. Pressure by Ari Lennox.

Speaker 1:

I turned you on to that one. You did, you did Thank you, yeah, yeah, you know, I don't know if you heard the long version.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, I actually have heard a remix on there with someone else Mm the guy and I was like OK, so he kind of came back to us say OK, if this is what you want me to do, this is what I'm going to do to you. So I was like oh, oh OK, oh OK.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, I really I like that song OK, yeah, yeah, pressure, yeah, all right.

Speaker 2:

I think I haven't heard in a while. It was on heavy rotation for a minute.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm getting sick of it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think it's another one that we like. It's another one that we like together, all right, essence. Oh, essence, with Whiz Whiz featuring Timbs OK, yeah, yeah, that was. That's a nice song, go ahead.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, I like this song. That song seemed a bit elegant to me. Elegant what you mean by that, I'm trying to think Let me see if I can remember. Yeah, because she's saying you want nobody but this body. Well, we don't want that.

Speaker 1:

No, yeah, I'm telling you, hey, yeah, you don't want that.

Speaker 2:

Literally telling him in this song like I got every, I got all that you need.

Speaker 1:

Right right.

Speaker 2:

You don't. You don't need nobody but this body.

Speaker 1:

Right right.

Speaker 2:

So I guess I think that I think that was just indirect way of saying you know, I got what you need.

Speaker 1:

Hey, we got a. Nikki is on, nikki on there, so you better watch it now, nikki. All right, nikki. Hey, nikki, how you doing? Give us a shout out there, give us a shout out, give us a shout out, all right. So let's see. So now we're getting down to the last one, we getting down to the last one, right? All right, you got one more and I got one more. You got one more.

Speaker 2:

I got one more.

Speaker 1:

Mm, hmm.

Speaker 2:

I have love on the brain.

Speaker 1:

Love on the brain. Love on the brain. It's nice to have love on the brain. It's nice to have love on the brain. All right, cool, I like, I like that. Now, this is my all time favorite for love making, all time for love making song. Go ahead, get it, see if you can guess. If you can guess, if you can guess, I buy your handbag. Yeah, if you can guess the song, you probably know it, but I would go and buy your handbag. You should know it. Mm, hmm, yes, sir.

Speaker 2:

All right, harder noise.

Speaker 1:

Nope, not harder noise. Uh-uh, Not harder noise.

Speaker 2:

One more guess.

Speaker 1:

One more guess.

Speaker 2:

Would you like?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I like harder noise, but that ain't it. Well, you don't lost your handbag so you can give another guess, but you know what that's not worth it.

Speaker 2:

It's not worth it.

Speaker 1:

All right, you get one more. I don't want another try. You want another try. I was going to give you one more guess and give you a handbag again. Give you one more time to get a handbag.

Speaker 2:

Purple rain.

Speaker 1:

Nope, not purple rain. You got the right person, but it ain't it. It's scandalous. Yeah, yes, and I'm not talking about the six minute version, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the 12 minute scandalous version. Now, that's a song right there and anybody can tell me that that song, that song, don't do it for you. What you think. I know I said Secret Garden. Now, secret Garden will do it for you, but when you turn on that print scandalous and you know that what you're doing is scandalous, I mean, you know, you know some people may consider it scandalous, but it's between you, if you're not doing it with the one you're supposed to be doing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

But look at here that song right there will get your toes curling.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I think it's satiable.

Speaker 1:

You think it's satiable is better.

Speaker 2:

Do me baby too. Oh man, you know what y'all think Come on.

Speaker 1:

Somebody put in the comments which one you think of Prince is out of these three. Now, if you got another song that you think of Prince, that is good too, then you just put it out there. But if you want to say which of these songs that you like, you know that you would say this is the song, this is the song. I want you to put it down in the chat, or you can call in 754-222-2219. You can call in right now. You can call in right now. What are they saying baby? What are they saying? Well, I'll say it.

Speaker 2:

The opening of Alone on Scandalous is serious. And she says serious that means serious business, Uh-huh uh-huh, uh-huh, okay, all right, all right, Okay, okay.

Speaker 1:

And she says the opening alone.

Speaker 2:

The opening alone.

Speaker 1:

The opening alone.

Speaker 2:

And you talking about 12 minutes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm talking about a 12 minutes. I'm talking about the 12 minute version.

Speaker 2:

If it's just the opening and you still got a door and you still got 11 minutes to go, okay, Now Ola is saying a door is better than scandalous.

Speaker 1:

She's just giving me the opening of scandalous, but she's saying that the opening, that the door, now a door, is good. Now, I ain't gonna dangle, I ain't gonna oh, it's good, I ain't gonna chop on, do Me Baby.

Speaker 2:

I'm telling you Do Me Baby.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that Do Me. Baby now is good too, now. But I just think scandalous is by his top. I think that scandalous is his top. Anybody else? Anybody else A login in and saying anything? All right, anybody else A login in and saying what they think it is. Or you can call in, hey Nicky, what you think your song is, what you think is the best. You know, you've been listening to Prince All your Life, so you know how that is. Yeah, you know how that is. So I want you to try to log in, call 754-222-2219, 754-222-2219. I want you to call in and join me and let's talk Prince a little bit. Let's talk Prince a little bit. You know, yeah, let's talk Prince a little bit. Let's talk Prince. I mean, ola, you know you're saying some stuff, but you know, dial in 754-222-2219.

Speaker 1:

All of these can be done instrumentally. You make your own, oh Lord, you make your own words. I like that, ola. Well now, when you say all of these, are you talking about Prince songs? Are you talking about the songs that we've been talking about? You know, because, again, I've been talking about when we Buy Tank. I've been talking about Far From Turtle, bob James. I know. You see, it added a thing in there Freaking you by Jodicy, all right. Freak Me by Silk, love Me in a Special Way to Barge I don't know if you can do that instrumental, and it still means something, you know, not a secret garden. I don't you gotta have the words for that one, you gotta have the words. You really got to have the words for that one. The secret garden, permission, your motivation, all right. So, look, y'all, come on in and talk to me, talk to your boy about that, all right. Oh, the Prince songs. Are you talking about the Prince songs? Okay, you know, you, man, I'm telling you that that man there boy, I'm telling you he was, he was, he was awesome.

Speaker 1:

So we, you know, we thank y'all for joining us tonight. For, you know, you know, we used to do this every other Monday, every other Monday, but you just want to do a pop in that today and we wanted to make sure we interview Chris Bird again. We want you to go out and not buy the CD. You know, like you say, if you want to see these, you can hit them up, but go to Amazon, go, uh, amazon music, go to Apple music, spotify, you know, and listen and get these, get these songs from Chris Bird collection songs in the key of love.

Speaker 1:

Between the sheets, that's the, that's the title of it, between the sheets, and you'll see. You know, I said, like you said, we got the original, we got the you know one with the black cover. When you see the ones online, they're going to have the purple cover. They're going to have the purple. It's a purple cover. It's the same thing, but it's a purple cover. But we got the original. Baby, that's what we got. We got the original. We don't play about 2006. Yeah, we got that.

Speaker 1:

So we want to thank each and every person for joining us. What is it? Okay, all to say, this was nice, rick, and I enjoyed it. It would definitely purchase the CD, all right, okay, cool, yeah, I'm going to say $10.99 and I'm telling you, ola, when you put it on, you know it's going to be on I'm telling you this see, not the first part, the first part, the end of the, you know the prelude is, you know them joking in and everything like that, you know. So you're going to laugh a little bit, but when he hits, this is for the saints. Yeah, it's all. It's up from there. It's up from there, all right. Well, we want to thank you all for joining us and throwing us on this pop up, pop up show. Yeah Right, all right, we're going to give everybody a applause for this.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much for joining us. We want to thank Chris Burr for joining us and telling us a little about himself and how long you say he's been married 41 years, 40 years. Wow, that's nine years longer than us. He got married young too. Wow, I love what he said. Because he married young. He had to almost grow into it, because when you young, you know how they say you young and dumb. You say stuff, you do stuff, whatever like that. But thank God for wisdom, people with wisdom that will help you In your marriage. You got to want to be helped by people with wisdom to get you through right. So I thank God he put that out there, the transparent moment. And so are you happy about tonight? I am, it's been fun.

Speaker 2:

It's definitely been fun. Can I just say that in a relationship, well, in a marriage, you're learning and you're growing every day. I don't care how many years you've been together. Constant next level, it's always the next level, you know, in the maturity of it and choosing your battles and you know, coming to that agreement on different things and different you know subjects that may come into the marriage. So it's definitely marriages, definitely a work in progress. It's constantly growing for the better, because if you can get, you know, if you can get over some of the worst things, then the even more worst things that come your way you know you can handle it. I remember just saying to you the other day you know, babe, I can't believe this happened. And you was like you know what, babe, we gonna be all right.

Speaker 1:

We gonna be all right.

Speaker 2:

You know, our brother said that's how y'all solve conflict. I was like, yeah, I say I trust him and if he say we gonna be all right, then we gonna be all right because we gonna been through some things and we gonna be not through some things and communication and you know, just being who we are to one another and respect and having boundaries with each other. I think that that's the key to success. No matter how long we've been, I learn stuff about you every single day.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, I love stuff about you too.

Speaker 2:

I don't know why I married this crazy man, oh geez, and. I also say well, you know, I fall in love with you over and over again. In 30 years I feel in love with you so many times.

Speaker 1:

That's a clap for me, I just I love you too, baby.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I love you too.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much for joining with us tonight. We will be back in September. Yep, september. Yeah, we will be back in September for our season two, season two. You could be.

Speaker 1:

Like I said, you can check us out on iTunes, google Cast, spotify. We are all there so you can listen. You know, listen to us, and if you want to listen to this thing again, you can listen to us again. But we gonna thank Chris Bird again. Baby, I thank you for being here with me. I love you so much. To all of who was with us tonight Ola, nikki, who he was it was a sexy girls, I see, you know all right. So we just thank God for each and every person and we will see you in September if we don't do another pop up. So make sure you subscribe. Please make sure you click that link. Make sure you subscribe. If you're on podcasts, make sure you subscribe. Whatever you know Google, apple make sure you subscribe, because you never know when we might do a pop up. God bless you and we'll see you later.

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