Marriage in Real Life
Marriage in Real Life
7 Secrets Every Spouse Should Keep
What secrets should you actually keep in marriage? Not the harmful, relationship-damaging kind, but the sacred boundaries that protect your union.
The discussion opens with a powerful story about a doctor married to a construction worker who explained her profound perspective: "I've never judged my husband by the size of his purse, but rather by the size of his purpose in my life." This wisdom sets the foundation for understanding that value in marriage transcends financial status.
We explore seven areas where privacy strengthens rather than harms your relationship: protecting intimacy, keeping disagreements private, handling family issues discretely, approaching health problems with wisdom, not dwelling on past regrets, honoring each other's insecurities, and keeping romantic moments sacred.
Scripture guides each principle, from Hebrews 13:4 reminding us that "marriage should be honored by all and the marriage bed kept pure" to Ephesians 4:26 instructing "in your anger do not sin; do not let the sun go down while you are still angry." We emphasize the critical distinction that healthy boundaries aren't about hiding things from your spouse, but rather the two of you protecting your relationship together.
Along the way, we tackle practical questions. When should you seek outside help? Every couple needs one trusted, spiritually mature couple that both spouses agree can offer counsel when needed. What constitutes oversharing on social media? How do you balance accountability with privacy?
The conversation weaves personal stories, biblical wisdom, and practical advice for couples navigating these waters. Whether you're newlywed or celebrating decades together, these principles of sacred privacy will strengthen your bond and deepen your trust.
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Speaker 2:Welcome.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:I didn't turn my mic on. Yeah, we know, we know.
Speaker 1:I already know that you don't be turning your mic on like you're supposed to. I already know that. Okay, just messing with you, baby, just messing with you. So how are you doing today, babe? How are you hanging?
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Speaker 1:You had a great day. I fell asleep at my desk, oh boy.
Speaker 2:I can't believe it. I jumped. Oh my goodness, I got places to be and things to do.
Speaker 1:Oh boy, you fell asleep.
Speaker 2:I fell asleep and it wasn't even my intention, so I think sometimes the body just be like you know what, you need to crash a bit, you think so I think so, because I slept well over the weekend so I wasn't tired. I don't know. I don't know what happened. Maybe it's that food I ate from the cafeteria.
Speaker 1:You probably put me down oh, yeah, you know that food will get you now you know that cafeteria food it will get you, yeah. So I want to thank each and everybody. Hey, we got. We see Rob is on. Hey, give a shout out to Rob. Hey, rob, rob say. Oh, I'm glad he corrected himself. He talking about good morning. That's all right, peaches is on, peaches is on. Hey Peach, hey Peach.
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Speaker 2:wow, we've been doing a lot of stuff. Didn't we do a lot? Or did we just chillax? I think we just chillax, I know yesterday.
Speaker 1:we went to a jazz place yesterday around 5 o'clock. The food wasn't.
Speaker 2:But the ambiance was outstanding. The ambiance was good, yeah, right there in the city of Lotta Hill.
Speaker 1:It was nice. It was nice. Yeah, Remember, it's brand is Grand Opening. So yeah, my friend Kenan was there last night. That's Saturday night.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, and he plays what Saxophone.
Speaker 1:Saxophone. Yeah, he plays saxophone, so yeah.
Speaker 2:He was there.
Speaker 1:We did that. We went to another restaurant, but we could just be some eating out people. We got to start cooking inside. I guess I got to start cooking inside.
Speaker 2:Boy I tell you Absolutely. Right now I can take a home-cooked meal.
Speaker 1:Hey, anybody who's watching want to invite us over for dinner?
Speaker 2:We would love to come. We would love to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we can get some home-cooked meals, because my wife, your wife, my wife, she don't cook no more.
Speaker 2:You know what I cook. If you ask me, if you tell me you want something in particular, I cook.
Speaker 1:Okay, if you tell me you want something in particular, I cook, I do, all right. So for now on, I'm going to do that, don't do that.
Speaker 2:I'll cook Sunday dinner for you, all right? Good, hey, we got.
Speaker 1:Juan and Paige watching from Port St Lucie. Hi Juan, hi Paige, how y'all doing? Hey, all right, all the way from Port St Lucie, that's where our bishop lives at. Yeah, right up there. All right, I'm ready to get into the topic. I know it's probably people tune this pastor and I think it's real good for what we talk about and even what our daughters and people in the church, and just for them to know. All right, you ready for it? I'm ready. All right, let's go. Let's go.
Speaker 3:There's a couple in our church in New Orleans that most people would consider the odd couple. This is why she is a medical doctor, he is a construction worker. She works in the hospital with patients all day. He works in building houses and buildings. And someone asked her how could she submit to a man who made substantially less money than she did and, like a grown woman, get what she said?
Speaker 3:She said I have never judged my husband by the size of his purse or his pocket, but rather by the size of his purpose in my life, by the size of his passion for me. She says I've never judged them by what he had in his pocket, but rather what he had in his heart. She said yeah, that's true, I make probably six times the money my husband makes. My husband has never been able to match my money, but guess what? He has always been able to match my grind. She says I've never found myself trying harder than him. I've never found myself trying harder than him. I've never found myself working harder than him. I have never found myself loving harder than him, and that's why I'm able to submit and call this man who works in construction my husband. She said to me. She said Pastor, my husband is not a man in my house. He is the man of my house because he's earned that position. I want to tell you a lot of folk are missing, great people, because you're so busy looking at money you forget about meaning.
Speaker 3:You're so busy looking at pocket and purse that you forget about purpose. Listen, you will always be able to find somebody that can afford you, but you know what the hard thing is Finding somebody that has the capacity to value you, because a person can afford you and still be disrespectful. A person can afford you and still talk down to you. A person can afford you and still misuse you. But when they value you, you have found the gem. Listen, don't you miss a dollar because you're chasing dimes. Dimes are always shiny and we love to shine. He has this, she has that. Dollars are not as pretty, but guess what? They hold more value. Choose folk that have value, not just folk who have shy All right, I like that.
Speaker 1:I got to get. I got to get. I gave the pastor a shout out on that. That was real, real good. Got to give him another one. What'd you take from that? What'd you take from that?
Speaker 2:It kind of bring me to a lot of the reality tv shows that's going on now and a lot of times you see some yeah, not me, but some people sit in their house and they go yeah, that's what I want, that's what I need, I want this, I want that and I want him to have this and I want her to that. And, at the end of the day, where's the value in that? Because they doing this right now. You don't know what's going on when the cameras aren't rolling. Do he value her? Do she really value him, or is it just a setup? So I think a lot of young adults try to base their lives placed on what they see in reality TV, and I think he kind of made a point. He can give you the world if that's what you want, but do he value you? Yeah, it's value.
Speaker 1:Value, and that's so important, I think yeah yeah, you need a person that is going to help you get on purpose, absolutely, and I know it goes vice versa. But he was just talking about and sometimes, a lot of times, women look for that. They would rather say, oh, I need a lawyer versus I need a garbage man. That man is working, he may not be wearing a suit all the time, but he's bringing home, he's a hard worker. And you want a hardworking man. You want a man that, look, when times get crazy, they still can do what they need to do.
Speaker 1:God and the hustle Again. Somebody's going to help you on purpose. Somebody that will love you as Christ loved the church. That's what you need, because you don't want nobody that's going to beat on you. You don't want nobody that's going to talk down to you. You don't want nobody that's going to do all those things. You do not want that Because that's what he said. He said you got more. Somebody with purpose. You know the capacity and the value because, again, if they can afford you sometimes and I say that all the times now we're just talking about in this particular clip if they can, sometimes they can afford you, but they will embarrass you, they will afford you but they will dishonor you. And I love when he talked about the dollar and the coin you know, because when you think about it, think about how dollars are usually crumbled up.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. They crumbled up, they sometimes we step on them, we do all that kind of stuff and we sometimes we don't even see the dollar if it's in the dirt or whatever. We have to look hard for it. But we could see the dollar If it's in the dirt or whatever. We have to look hard for it. But we could see the dime, right. But again, the dollar is worth more. When you bought us something to drink, you weren't going to buy nothing. For a dime man you can't buy it.
Speaker 2:It's not like how we grew up.
Speaker 1:That's so true. When we used to get cookies for a dime and stuff like that, we didn't have to worry about dollars, man, we just had some quarters and some pennies. We were good to go.
Speaker 2:The value part is what stood out to me and I remember a while back I was talking about the value of a diamond and and how the diamond it shines and it's so beautiful. And they say diamonds are a girl's best friend Right, but if that diamond chip get bruised, the value of it go down. So if you're giving me a beautiful house and you're giving me the credit cards and you're giving me all that, but yet you're still chipping away at me, you're still bruising me, my value is going down. And then I got to go somewhere and pick myself up, get my self-esteem and get me back in check with life. As to how I want to, after I have stood back, because I wanted all of these material things, but mostly what I want is your heart, and if your heart is following the heart of God, those things become secondary.
Speaker 1:Oh, I got to give you. You preached yesterday. We forgot about that. Oh yeah, you preached yesterday. You did your thing yesterday.
Speaker 2:Thank God for the glory.
Speaker 1:You did your thing yesterday and you just preached yesterday. You did your thing yesterday, Thank God for the glory. You did your thing yesterday and you just preached again.
Speaker 2:All right, I wasn't trying to do that.
Speaker 1:But you're so right and I think oftentimes, men, sometimes, we need to make sure that we value our spouse. We need to make sure we value them. Don't say things, don't fuss at things, don't do things that we would not do to take the value of our spouse down. We don't say things, don't fuss at things, don't do things that we would not do to take the value of our spouse down. We don't want to do that. I agree, we don't want to do that, all right.
Speaker 2:All right, let's get into this, because our time is running short, yeah let's get into this topic tonight.
Speaker 1:So tonight's episode might it might surprise some folks, because we're talking about secrets. At least we ain't talking about rumors. You remember that song? Look at all these rumors.
Speaker 2:We ain't talking about secret lovers.
Speaker 1:We ain't talking about that. No, we ain't talking about no secret lovers no, we ain't talking about that. But not those kind of secrets, are we? So we're not talking about those secrets. We're talking about the right kind of secrets, the ones that protect your marriage and not poison it. Yeah, all right. So we're talking about those secrets, those secrets that you and your wife supposed to have and I think we did a podcast.
Speaker 1:You got to make sure you watch who you talk to and all this kind of stuff. Remember that and and so those type of things. Those are secrets that you need to keep to yourself. Now I want to say this.
Speaker 1:I want to say that sometimes, keeping secrets, especially when it comes down to prayer, and especially when it comes down to prayer, I think, some secrets that we try to uphold, that we try to keep we should be letting those who we trust Again, that's the preface of it when we trust, we should be letting them know what to pray for, because sometimes we try to keep secrets and because people will say or if I tell it, it's out in the atmosphere and this is going to happen, and that is going to happen when.
Speaker 1:Look, if you got people that you trust that. You know that, hey, they can get an answer to God, they can talk to God and for a fact, that they will keep your secret, they're not going to go and blabber it all over the place. Those are the people that you say, hey, I need you to pray for me because such and such Okay, cool, we got you All right, cool, and you got somebody to hold you accountable and do this. And so I think sometimes with secrets in a marriage, when it comes down to your husband or wife, sometimes you need to let people know and not keep it such a secret. What do you think about that?
Speaker 2:I think I'm a real private person. When it comes down to my personal business I'm constantly. I would just make sure you pray and you ask the Lord to lead you to someone that you can confide in. Don't go with someone because y'all go to brunch together and whatever. Make sure the Lord is directing you. You know who to speak to on the behalf of whatever may be concerning with your marriage or whatever it may be. Make sure you seek God first, and even pastor might be okay, but he may go to his wife and say, hey, we need to pray for this couple, and then the wife might tell her women's department president and before you know it, I'll tell you that, if that happens, you got a right First of all.
Speaker 1:you got a right to first of all, you got a right to sue.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you do, but. I'm just saying cause you want to be careful in that aspect. In the past I've experienced that happen with someone else. It wasn't with me, but it was with someone else and I was like no she did, then you got a right right to confront the pastor.
Speaker 1:Because if you're telling your pastor and you're telling him in secret and usually a pastor would say, hey, can I tell my wife, and if you say, no, I don't tell her, and then you tell her, then that's wrong. But if he, if you say, yeah, go ahead and tell her, and he tells, and you say, hey, look, I only told you. And now this person knows and I only told you, like you said, it yesterday.
Speaker 1:You said it yesterday I only told you, and now the whole church knows. So either you're blabbering or you told somebody, and they blabbering absolutely. So I don't know who you told, but this ain't, this can't happen and I don't trust you no and how can you trust a shepherd voice if they're going around blabbering your stuff? You just can't do?
Speaker 2:You just can't do it.
Speaker 1:You just can't do it. All right, all right. So this is what God, god, god, calls us to guard. What's a secret? Proverbs four and 23 says above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it. That applies to our marriage too. Everything that's a guard our heart. So that means and everything that's a guard our heart, so that means, and I know, especially with women, y'all love to guard your heart, boy, y'all will guard that heart forever and ever.
Speaker 2:I have to be honest as you go through life and you're in and out of relationships, you build up a wall because now you didn't. You ain't trying to be broken. You're trying to keep your head on. We're trying to stay focused. Okay, you're trying to keep your head on. You're trying to stay focused.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, all right. So you ready, you ready. Let's dig into these seven secrets every spouse should keep, and we're going to be using some of the word of God to guide us in every step. You ready?
Speaker 2:I'm ready. Uh-oh, you have nothing better to do with your time, do you? I promise you, okay. So our first secret is God created intimacy for marriage. It's holy Hebrews. 13 and 4 tells us marriage should be honored by all and the marriage be it kept pure, oh that unstruck something now, okay, okay, okay, all right, all right.
Speaker 1:So that means that what happens between a husband and wife emotionally, physically, spiritually isn't meant for public consumption. It's a gift from God, not a group check topic.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, I agree with that. Let's go back to that part where it says the marriage bed should be kept pure. Break that down for me.
Speaker 1:I would say this what you and your husband do in your bed is between you and your husband. That's what it is. If one of you do not agree about what to do in the bed, then you can't do it and you can't get mad about it. If you can't get mad about it, if you want to change it, you better go to god so you can pray first.
Speaker 1:Huh, if you're going to ask, your spouse say, hey, I want to do this, I want to have some chains and some whips. And your spouse say you ain't, finna, hit me with no chain.
Speaker 2:We should go into prayer.
Speaker 1:You need to do what y'all agree upon. And then you start praying and fasting. You tell your spouse I'm going on a three-day fast when you stop praying and fasting.
Speaker 2:you still say you tell your spouse I'm going on a three-day fast when you go on a three-day fast Because I won't change the wheels, all right, okay, all right, so long as the two of us agree. We're good. As long as the two, yeah.
Speaker 1:So what I say and that thing when it says pure, people have a tendency of definition what is pure. Because what is pure to some person is not pure to another person and it's only pure to God. So that's why you have to go to God and say, okay, this is what we agree upon in our bed. Because, again, what is pure to one person may not be pure to another person. What consider holy to another person, it may not be considered holy to another person. Because, again, we grew up, holiness was what? The long dresses, the stockings, no makeup, all this and some people still consider that holy. If you ain't doing that, you're not holy. We look at that and say what? So you can't say, you can't say it, so you gotta, you got must go to God, all right.
Speaker 2:You gotta must go to God. All right, you got me scratching my head, girl. I just think when you protect the intimacy, it honors your spouse and, more importantly, it honors God. God created it for the married couple. So you want to be focused on God? Not at the moment, not while you be intimate.
Speaker 1:You don't be focusing on God, you don't be saying hallelujah. Thank you, jesus.
Speaker 2:Stop it. You might say thank you, jesus. Whatever you did, you want you, I was gonna get through this I don't know, you know what it honors god when you are enjoying one another and he see that his creation and what he has joined together is good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hey because god made for man and woman to enjoy intimacy yes, I made that amen so it's not about being secretive, it's all about being sacred I like that. Okay, all right we gotta be, we gotta be sacred baby. Okay, all right, all right, all right, all right. So let's be real. We're going to talk about disagreements. Number two is disagreements Because, if we be real, we've all had disagreements.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:We've all had disagreements, and when was the last time we had a big disagreement?
Speaker 2:Yesterday, oh God.
Speaker 3:And when the last time we had a big disagreement. Yesterday, oh God.
Speaker 1:Oh man, oh man, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. But our disagreements are not big, no more.
Speaker 2:Because over the times, over 30 years, it's really gotten to the point where you just really choose the battle.
Speaker 1:You got to know how to choose your battles.
Speaker 2:I don't have time for the pettiness If I say that that's what I'm going to do. That's what I'm going to do. I'm moving on, I'm moving on. I'm not going to linger there.
Speaker 1:Because we got much bigger things that we got on our plate to do, and arguing over something petty is not, it's not it, that's not it's not it, it got so exactly so in phasing 426 reminds us in your anger, do not sin, do not let the sun goes down while you are still angry. So in your anger, do not sin. So yeah, I guess because again, we talk about it all the time and we've said it here, especially when it comes down to communication. Communication is the key to your marriage. Communication is the key to your marriage. Communication is the key to your marriage. You must communicate.
Speaker 1:So you got to communicate between about intimate details. You got to even your disagreements. You got to communicate details. You gotta, even in your disagreements, you got to communicate. So you gotta make sure that when it says, in your anger, do not sin, that you do not say things that you cannot take back, make sure. So that's why, that's why we tell people just hey, just hey, slow down. You know, hey, before you say something. I know you're mad, I know you're angry, but don't say nothing that you will regret, because you can say you're sorry from now to Timbuktu or now to eternity, but that person can, will still remember what you said and that's part of chipping away.
Speaker 2:oh, wow, that's part of because if you say something and you be like, oh, especially if I confided in you and something that was sensitive to me, and then you throw it back at me, I don't trust you, I'm not telling you nothing else. Now you put me in a position where I have to go tell my girlfriend, because now I'm hurt and I don't know how to react to it. So now I got to call up Sheila and say girl, Don't call up Sheila.
Speaker 2:And be like girl. Can you believe? He said this and now Sheila is seeing you in a different light. Yes, yeah, you just have to be mindful of what you say and how you say it. This scripture doesn't say that you can't get angry.
Speaker 3:You can get upset.
Speaker 2:Jesus got upset when he was in the temple and said look at what y'all doing. As a matter of fact, this is not what I created this to be.
Speaker 1:He did that today we're talking about Holy Week. This is what he did. This is Monday. This is today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he did that today and he was like you've made this out of a den of thieves. So, jesus, he did get angry. So we're not saying that you can't get angry, but don't let it linger and just keep your disagreements within your marriage. Don't say things to each other where that partner has got to go and vent to someone else, because once it's broadcast and sometimes we're in the heat of anger and we say what we're going to say it gets out there, somebody over here, and it gets twisted around.
Speaker 2:I remember my grandmother used to play this game with us and she would say she would tell one person and I think I said this a million times, she would tell one person in that ear and we had to go around the room with the same secret that she started with and by the time it got it was a lot of us, maybe 15 of us, but by the time it got to the last person it was completely different to what she had told the first. But she said that is not what I said so that's how things get added.
Speaker 2:People add their own thing in it, they take stuff away, and then they start seeing your partner in a different perspective, which is not cool at all we got izzy, izzy, hey, izzy hey girl izzy says I think it's good to keep disagreements private until it becomes threatening to the marriage.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, there should be at least one experienced married couple that is spiritually mature to counsel you.
Speaker 2:I agree, I agree and that goes back to what we said at the beginning about pray about that person. Ask God to direct you to that person because you don't want to go to someone that maybe relationship hurt, male hurt, because they're going to give you from their perspective and that's not what God needs. That's not where God needs you to be at that particular point. So I totally agree with that Someone that's spiritually mature to counsel you.
Speaker 1:All right. She goes on to say, but it must be someone that both spouses agree with and feel comfortable with. That is unbiased, absolutely, I believe, and I just want to just reiterate what she just said and I just want to put an explanation point to it. I believe every couple should have that one couple that you can go to, that both, like she said, that both of you all agree to, both of you know that they will hold you accountable. You know that you was. You know that couple would say to you you're wrong and you're wrong whatever, and you can be and you could be vulnerable to that couple, and you know for a fact that couple will not go around and share your business. You know what I mean. That couple is your couple. You can call them, you can visit them, you can stay with them, you can do if you want to do a vacation with them. You can do all those things with that one couple because you know that you trust that couple. So every couple needs a couple. We always say every pastor needs a pastor, every marriage needs another good marriage couple in their lives. You got to have one that you can call at any time. All right, it's on.
Speaker 1:Many people keep quiet and suffer in silence and it makes the marriage bad when they suffer in silence in anything with the marriage things. That's why you got to have that one person that you know, that one couple that you can talk to, that they'll tell you in therapy. You cannot suffer in silence. Suffering in silence is bad. And when you suffer in silence, what does that do? It tears you down. Just talking about your individual, it tears you down. You get depressed. You say I don't want to do anything. You don't function well at your job, you don't function well at your church, you just don't function well because you're torn down. So you can you marry. Imagine in a marriage what happens when both of you all are suffering in silence and when the enemy is having his field day. Yes, he is, he's having his field day. He's having his field day, you know.
Speaker 2:And also in the process of that suffering, your heart starts to harden towards that person.
Speaker 3:Oh man.
Speaker 2:And when the light bulb come on and it's oh no, I'm about to lose my wife. Oh no, I'm about to lose my husband. Now you got to take an ax to try and break through that brick that you created because they built it up so hard and now you're struggling trying to break them down, but at this point they've disconnected.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So now you got to get the reconnection so you can move forward.
Speaker 1:Boy, ain't nothing like a disconnected spouse? Nothing like that. There's no power in a disconnect, there's no power in a marriage. You think, when you take something, if I were to disconnect the audio, people wouldn't be hearing. And so when a spouse is disconnected from the marriage, that marriage is not going nowhere.
Speaker 2:Wow, it's stagnated. Now can it be revived and refreshed? Absolutely it can. But both have to be willing to put in the work for it to be renewed. You can't do it by yourself. I constantly say you can't get in the ring and tag team yourself. You got to have somebody to tag with.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And if we can't do it together, then it can't be done.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's just more suffering, and no one deserves to be in a marriage where they're suffering and no matter what and no matter how hard they try, it's good for the moment and then it's back down. You up one month and you're down three months. That's no way to live. That's no way to live and God does not want that.
Speaker 1:God is not pleased with. God is not pleased with that, not at least with that up and down because somebody is causing that. God is not pleased with that at all. I want to go just hit back at the intimate thing. Right, when it talks about secrets and you said it before Don't you go out and tell nobody out there talking to your girlfriend how good your husband is, and husbands don't go around and talking about what your wife do and all this kind of stuff. No, no, no, because your friend will be sitting there waiting for your dismise so they can pick up the pieces, so they can say, okay, yeah, he was right, yeah, yeah that's why you got to have that spiritually minded couple.
Speaker 1:It comes back to easyzy, that spiritual minded, but you don't intimate stuff. You don't even tell your spiritually minded person unless it was not where it's supposed. To be All right, so that's number two. Number two was disagreement. Yes, but this is good, this is good.
Speaker 2:Number three. Number three Family issues Family issues Now this is a big one, because some family has lots of drama. But God called us to be peacemakers, so in our relationships we have to be focused on staying calm and staying in character.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what the scripture says blessed are the peacemakers. Right, they shall be called to what? But it's hard to be peacemakers, though it is, because not a family it is.
Speaker 2:It is because sometimes family think they know what's best for your marriage, when I when ain't no, but when it's only two people in the whole family has ever been married and the rest of the others that have been married as divorce yeah now they're telling you how to do this thing. Oh so you can hold on to yours, but now you're giving me advice on mine.
Speaker 2:So, you got to be careful with that too. You can't go tell Aunt Millie everything. Aunt Millie going to tell Aunt Sophia. When all the aunties get together, they're going to be talking about your baby. I think that's. Is that just what families do?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2:Because that is so rude?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is rude, and I know people say, especially in an African-American marriage, african-american family, what goes on in the house stays in the house. Right, and I know for a lot of people, many, a lot of things that happen in the house was not told to somebody else. Right, and that's not a good thing. But we're not talking about abuse, right. We're not talking about physical abuse. We're not talking about it. We're just talking about arguments, disagreements or stuff, things like that Family secrets.
Speaker 1:Maybe it's something that's not detrimental to nobody, that's going to mess with their minds, but it is a secret that we're going to keep Right. For instance, and I would tell this, I would tell this as long as I live, and so I didn't find out that my dad was my dad until he died. My mom kept the secret. My dad kept the secret. That was a family secret that they kept. It was now to some people you may say it harmed me. It harmed me and but really I would have wanted him to know, I wanted to know that, but he treated me like a son anyway, because I was adopted, and I was adopted at six months, whatever. So it wasn't that bad, I would say to me, and so when he came out, it wasn't that I was so mad at him that I wanted to go to his grave and dig him up and slap him right in. Why, you ain't tell me. But it was a family issue, so sometimes we got to do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's just we, just again, when God is in the center of it, god will direct you to the right person within your family that you could talk to.
Speaker 2:And that person will take whatever you told them to their grave or into your grave. However, they'll keep it. God will guide you. I fell into the trap of sharing something with a family member and it came back and bit me totally. But one thing I do know is I know that I only told that person. So now I don't go to that person anymore to share anything. I don't care if I got to break my fingernail, I don't care what it is, I will take it to my grave. The only person that I will confide in anything now is my mom. You just have to be careful you know who you choose with. And then not only you should never be in that power struggle where you know I'm choosing my brother over what my husband is saying.
Speaker 1:No, you shouldn't. No, that ain't happening.
Speaker 2:You can't do that either, because family will get you in that situation where they'll have you like. Am I the crazy one? What's going on here?
Speaker 1:Like what Jordan told you. Tell that again. What Jordan told you, what Jordan was talking about, you and Malika and things like that. Tell that again. And that's very important, because it should not be a tug of war between family and your spouse. It should not be a tug of war Because, again, a man and a woman, they're going to leave and they're going to cleave together. They are families. Now, what was?
Speaker 2:that he said Mom, you'll always be my first love, but Malaika is my wife and I don't want no issues between y'all two. I was like, oh, eric, who do you think he's talking to? But I respect him for that. He probably remember saying it and I respect him for that because he let me know that, mom, you're going to be my girl, you're going to always be my girl. But this one right here she's my wife and I love her and I don't want no power struggle between the two of y'all.
Speaker 2:I won't decide. It will never come to me having to decide y'all going to get along. I said okay.
Speaker 1:Jordan, hey look, it will never come to me having to decide Y'all going to get along All right, I'm in. Okay, jordan, all right, hey look Little J.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, he took me on a date Saturday.
Speaker 3:That's right.
Speaker 1:Y'all went on a date Saturday. He did. He took me on a date Saturday.
Speaker 2:He was such a gentleman. I truly enjoyed his company. So now we're going to go out. I want everyone.
Speaker 1:All right, that's cool, that's cool, that's cool, all right, all right, all right. That was number three, number four. Number four Number four Health problems, health problems. It's loving to want prayer and support, but we have to balance that with privacy. We said that. I said it earlier.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you did, you know you want lovers, but you have to value certain health. I would say like this if it's health issues, that's in between the spouse, if you have that one couple and you don't even feel comfortable sharing with that one couple, you could just call and say, hey, you don't have to be particular about it. You can just say, hey, I've got this health issue, I need prayer. Or if you don't want to share and you and your husband are praying, then that's fine too, but one you should not keep it to yourself. If you're married, you better not keep that health issue to yourself. You got to tell your boss.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got to. Alright, so let me pull the scripture on this. James 5 and 16 says confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. I like that.
Speaker 1:You like that, you may be healed. Okay, I like that.
Speaker 2:You like that? I like that Also over here. In Proverbs 11 and 13 it says a gossip betrays a confidence, but a trustworthy person keeps a secret. Oh gosh, and that is good. And let's go back to the when you got something dealing with your health, when something is going on, since we all adults here, we all adults here. If you having any type of intimate problems, don't, don't keep that to yourself. Let your spouse know. Be like, listen, babe, have an issue, because if not, your debt either way will feel rejected, as if maybe I'm not attractive or maybe I gained too much weight.
Speaker 2:Maybe I'm fat and he don't like it, or maybe I'm bald and she don't like it because you know I'm saying so. You definitely don't keep that part out, because that's very important. Anything that's gonna put your spouse into a place where they may have to physically take care of you, bathe you, clean you, anything. Don't keep that secret, because it's going to hit them like a ton of bricks. And now they are. They got to get a wheelchair ramp for the house and they got to do this. And then all this time, as you've known it, all this time, and you didn't say nothing. That's a lot. Yeah, that's when it comes down to your health. Don't keep that a secret from your spouse. As far as the females, we need to know. We need to know because we are nurturers, we take care of the children, we take care of the husband, we take care of the house. I love you too, baby. We take care of the house. We need to make sure that we have the strength, the emotional strength, to deal with it. It's a lot. So, please, and guys, go to the doctor Now.
Speaker 2:I hate going to the dentist. It's nothing about the dentist that's appealing to me. I hate the dentist. And because I hate the dentist, I have spent almost $10,000 in my mouth because I wait till the last minute to go up in there. So I spend a lot of money in that because I hate doing it. But don't prolong your health because at the end of the day, we never know whether the enemy is going to set a trap. We never know if we're going to get in an accident. My son and his family was in an accident this morning. Thank you, jesus, that they survived it. But what if something happened where one of them had to take care of the other? You never know when you're going to get in a situation and when you're going to have to step up and do what you got to do. So health is important, so definitely don't leave that out.
Speaker 1:Okay, good, and like you said, even when you have the couple we mentioned before, if your spouse have not given you the green light to share, you better not share.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, nobody, yeah, no, it's personal, it's personal.
Speaker 1:Don't share with nobody. We know that love covers all things and it doesn't expose.
Speaker 2:It doesn't expose True love.
Speaker 1:True love don't True love, yeah, and that's, I would say, in all of these secrets, that love covers these things and you don't have to expose your spouse. See, this is one thing you know people don't understand. When you get married and you trust, you starting to trust that person, you starting to tell them intimate details about things that happen, and you don't expect to get divorced, you're vulnerable.
Speaker 2:You're learning together. You're growing together. You're vulnerable.
Speaker 1:You're supposed to be telling. That's why communication is very important. You're saying this is how I feel, this is what's going on and that's why I say you got to fight when disagreements happen and you feel like, oh, I'm going to divorce, I'm fighting for this Because you probably not told your spouse some things that you don't even want nobody to know.
Speaker 2:I ain't told you that.
Speaker 1:I'm a good girl. You're a good girl, yeah.
Speaker 2:I totally understand that because you want. When you first get married, you're learning each other. You're still growing up. My grandmother said you grow up until you die. You grow up until you die. So grow up until you die you grow up until you die.
Speaker 2:So you're constantly learning each other. Things are changing, like I was telling someone. I say eric is not the guy that I married. He is not the guy that I'm. The guy that I married was 115 pounds soaking wet off the rip. He's not the guy that I'm married. I'm loving the guy that I'm married to because he's changed along the way. I I'm not the woman that he married. I'm a different person because I've grown up. Things have changed. I've thought about different things and in every marriage I'm definitely sure every marriage is a work in progress.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, work in progress. Okay, all right, all right, we're ready to go to the next one, to the next one.
Speaker 2:So number the next one. So number five, number five. You ready past regrets, and we all have a past. We've all done some things we ain't proud of. We all did some things that we don't want nobody to know about. But in christ, oh, we are a new creation, you're preaching girl he said old things are passed away. Now don't go back there and pick those things up. I joke around a lot, y'all getting patsy, but Pat, that girl from the hood, oh.
Speaker 1:Lord, y'all don't hear that.
Speaker 2:See, you know what she needs to be buried, because I'm never going back there.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:Jesus, because I'm a new, you know what I'm over you. I'm a new creation and I'm excited about what God is creating in me. So I wouldn't go back and bring up old things and try to say you. You say you know what? I can't, I'm done.
Speaker 1:So what does that mean? That means old mistakes don't define us, and they don't need to be dragged around either. The things that we've done in the past don't define us.
Speaker 2:You got to let it go because, guess what, if you keep bringing it up, it's going to be hard. You can't determine your future by looking at your past.
Speaker 1:You can't and the old things that you used to do. It don't define us, and people would try to define us by our old mistakes. They are quick to bring up what we used to do and how we did it and where we did it and who we did it with. They love to do that. You get to the class reunion and everybody want to talk about man, you remember this, you remember that, you remember this, you remember that. Man, I ain't got time for that. I can laugh at it. If you're talking about something negative, I ain't got time for it. Now, if you're talking about, hey, remember you in the band and you had your legs 90 degrees, you were jamming out there, oh, I'm fine with that, I'm fine with that, but all that other stuff, I ain't got time for that. Like the womanizing.
Speaker 2:The womanizing Got a girlfriend in the 9th grade, one in the 10th grade, one in the 11th you went to prom with, but you don't want to hear about that stuff. That stuff is in the past. You're a new creation.
Speaker 1:I'm a new creation baby. I don't worry about two dates at a prom, two different high schools.
Speaker 2:I don't worry that stuff is old, you don't need them bringing that up no, I don't need that.
Speaker 1:I don't need that. That's why I keep telling you stop bringing up how much I owe you for my car insurance.
Speaker 2:You know you owe me $98.90. You keep growing up, man. Hey, listen, I'll put a percentage on that.
Speaker 1:Hey man, you got to stop that. So unless you know your spouse choose to share your testimonies publicly about what happened, you have no right to go and share to another person or share it publicly about that. And to me, I've really learned, especially from you, that even when I preach, I got to make sure that certain things that I have to get your clearance first. You know what I mean Because I've done that before and you got on me. You got on me by the look and I said, well, I'm here, I might as well just go ahead and do it. I walked in it. But when you get in the car we get home, give me a little peace of mind because it's not right for me to share regrets or things that you done or things that we done, without talking to you first.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I have to talk to you first.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got to do that. Yeah, healing happens in private first, so we got to let the Lord lead. If it's ever time to share it more publicly, we got to do that, all right. All right, we ready, we ready, we moving right along, we moving right along. We got number six Insecurities. All right. So when your spouse shares an insecurity, they're trusting you with that, I agree.
Speaker 2:It goes both ways you confide in one another, you love one another and you want to keep your business to yourself, period. Let me read this what Proverbs 31 and 11 says about a virtuous wife. Her husband has full confidence in her.
Speaker 3:Full confidence.
Speaker 2:Meaning he trusts you with his emotions, he trusts you with his secrets or whatever he has going on.
Speaker 1:And that goes both ways too, he trusts you.
Speaker 2:So if you're going to share anything, get his permission. Or if it's something that you can't say, maybe you should talk to someone about this. Talk to somebody about I'm a woman. I don't know how to help you in that situation, but so I'm. I trust that you'll find the right person that you can confide in, but that's a woman with wisdom, saying, hey, I don't know how to help in this area, so you can trust that what you've shared with me, I'm not going to share with anyone else because I want you to get a healing your healing from that, and if it turns into a testimony, maybe it's something we could tell together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So this is where compassion kicks in. We shouldn't don't use the spouse's fear to win an argument. That's positive, right there. You don't use somebody's insecurity to win an argument.
Speaker 2:A lot of disagreements in a lot of marriages. They throw darts at each other like that Can't be throwing no darts. They throw darts at each other, like that.
Speaker 1:No, sir. No, they can't use you, can't. It is wrong for somebody to use somebody's insecurity to win an argument. That's not a spouse, that's not a marriage. A low blow. That is a low blow. That is a low blow and we, sometimes you can't come back from them. Low blows now, sometimes you can't come back, so you can't use somebody's insecurities to do that. Don't share them as a joke. If your spouse has an insecurity, you got to lift them up in prayer.
Speaker 2:Absolutely I agree with that.
Speaker 1:And like you say, you can't in your prayer time, lord, give us wisdom to direct us to the people in order to help my spouse's insecurity, because I can't do it. I can't do it. All right, ready Number seven.
Speaker 2:Number seven. This is it. That's the romantic moment.
Speaker 1:Romantic moments. Alright, romantic moments. We started with intimate and we end with romantic.
Speaker 2:This is where you get specific romances to get from God as well. A lot of people read Songs of Solomon, and it's not just poetry, it's passion. It glorifies the Lord.
Speaker 1:It's awesome. I would love for us to do a series on Songs of Solomon.
Speaker 2:That could get a little touchy, oh man that's for marriages.
Speaker 1:Songs of Solomon. We just go through Songs of Solomon for a little bit and just talk about it. If you want that, if you'd like to have that, just for us to just go through Songs of Solomon, put us in the chats, put a thumbs up or a yes or something like that, that you would like for us to do Songs of Solomon, I think that'd be good.
Speaker 1:All right when you keep those tender moments just between you two. It deepens the bond. Sharing too much information about romantic moments could tempt you to brag, to do for recognition or, worst of all, shift the focus away from your spouse. You should keep gifts, love notes and other romantic things a secret and not all the time share it doggone on Facebook, Twitter and all that stuff. I hate it, man. You know what it gets me. I buy my wife a coach bag. I got to go and show it. Oh, this is what I bought my wife. I bought my wife a car. Oh, I got to go and tell everybody this is what. I bought my wife a car. I bought this and I bought that for my wife.
Speaker 1:Everybody don't need to know all the stuff that you buy. What do you have? That's just between you and your wife. You don't have to share and tell everybody what you do, Everything, Because you know what, what people don't understand. You share so much and when you get robbed, when your wife get robbed, when you get robbed, you have nobody to blame but yourself. You don't see Bill Gates and all of them go and share what they got. They don't go and share that. You got to go and look it up and see how much money they worth. You don't know. They don't go out and say, man, I'm worth $1 billion. I would say there's only one person that does that, that brags about how much money they got, and I don't even want to mention his name.
Speaker 3:I ain't even want to mention his name.
Speaker 1:You know I ain't going to even mention his name, but you don't want to do it. You don't need to go around and brag what you and your wife got. You see it all the time with these rappers and stuff like that. They want to have all the chains and all that stuff and then they get robbed and then they want to cry oh somebody robbed me, you going around bragging about it. So I never want, want. And now if you, as a spouse, you want to, and even babe, even if you was going on facebook and say this is my, my husband bought this and my husband I would be like, don't do that. I would say don't you do it. It's between me and you. I bought this for you. I didn't say I plan on it for the whole world to know it. No, I bought this for you. This is between me and you. This is a romantic gift, this is a romantic note or whatever like that. And again, it goes down to permission too.
Speaker 2:I'm not that I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:I didn't want to say, oh, I got a new car, check it out.
Speaker 2:I just think that the blessings of the Lord bring you no sorrow. So when the Lord blesses you, you should have no pain. It comes along with that. You got to be careful. So, at the end of the day, secrets aren't bad. Secrets that are kept between you and your spouse aren't bad, and it's important to hold the glue that bonds you together when you can count on each other, when you're compassionate for one another, when you guide each other's back. Sometimes some things just have to be kept to yourself, and when things can't go to the Lord first and say I need a way to express how I'm feeling right now and just keep God in the center of it, the world will be looking from the outside trying to figure out what's going on the inside. So keep that bond, keep that glue. Those secrets that you share with one another, keep those.
Speaker 3:They're sacred, they are sacred.
Speaker 2:They're sacred, yeah, the enemy just need a crack so he can just run with it and make you look like the bad guy.
Speaker 1:Oh gosh, yes, so be careful with that. Yeah, what do you?
Speaker 2:think babe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree with you. Secrets are sacred between you and your spouse. You must keep that sacred and keep it close and don't go and tell everybody. You go back to what Izzy said from that when she says, look, you got that one couple that will hold you accountable and you could talk to, you could confide in, and they're not going to tell anything and they're going to tell who's right and who's wrong, and they just that way and you don't need to tell in and everybody Because, look, this is one thing I do know.
Speaker 1:You can go to one person or you can go to this other person and both of them can be prayer warriors or whatever, and they will tell you two different things. You go to this person, three things, and sometimes you get confused. By sharing with so many people, you get confused on what to do. So I guess it comes back to this when you have that one couple that you trust, that you know that they love you and they give you godly advice, the thing is that you got to know God for yourself.
Speaker 1:You got to go and any couple that is mentoring you that does not say I'm telling you this but you got to pray about it If they don't and that counselor says that you need to pray about it, then they're the wrong couple because you got to pray about it. And again we always say it was good for us, may not be good for you, We'll just give you some counseling, but it may not work for you. But this is what, how we would handle it, and so that's it all right yes, you are right, you are right oh yes you say the couple has to be pro-marriage.
Speaker 2:That is so true has to be pro-marriage that is so true, oh man that's why I say you can't go to somebody who's been marriage hurt or broken because he ain ain't going to give you. They're more or less going to be saying what I would do or what I would do. No, they need to be pro-marriage. They need to be fighting for their marriage, yes, but they need to be fighting for longevity. Let me ask this question.
Speaker 1:I want to ask the question to Izzy. Go ahead. How can a couple not be pro-marriage?
Speaker 2:Ooh, you'll be surprised.
Speaker 1:How can a couple that you go to, how can they, not be pro-marriage? It seems like every couple will want their marriage to work and other marriages to work. How can a couple not be pro-marriage?
Speaker 2:You know, because some people are so in love with the wedding that they don't think about their marriage, their relationship. That's how they cannot be. They're so busy trying to shine bright like a diamond for the whole world to see, spend a whole bunch of money they never really thought about. Hey, I'm going to be committed to this man. I'm going to be committed to this woman.
Speaker 1:Sickness and health Again, I'm going to be committed to this man.
Speaker 2:I'm going to be committed to this woman Sickness and her health. Again, if something happened to you, will this person be willing to stand by you and take care of you? No, they won't. I was just looking at a clip of a movie just came on. I don't, oh God the guy was. He came home from work and the girl said to him I heard you lost your job. And he said how you know that I lost my job. I'm just heading home. She said you don't have the money to take care of me. He said who boxes is this? She said I gotta go. But they had spent all this money on this big wedding, all the people flying in, and they did. It was wonderful. I was like that's a nice wedding but at the end of the day, where was the value?
Speaker 1:So they wasn't pro-marriage. No, they were just pro let's just do this. Get some money.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say that he didn't love her, but she definitely wasn't feeling him because at the first sign of we finna be broke, you gonna go.
Speaker 2:So a lot of people like I think Pastor Barr said it before people so focused on the wedding and all the extravagance of that that they're not focused and committed to the marriage. So any little thing stay out the door and you see it in Hollywood all the time and they make it look glamorous. There's nothing glamorous about that. I think one of these celebrities and I can't even know she done been married so many times I lost count. I don't follow anyway, but we have to make sure that we're in it for the long haul.
Speaker 1:Rob gave thumbs up and Izzy gave thumbs up, so that song is solid. We got to do it. Izzy says people will project their hurt feelings onto you. They will give poor advice to you that they won't take for themselves.
Speaker 2:Oh girl, They'll tell you what I would do, how I would do. This is what I was thinking about. And next thing, you know you over there at the court signing divorce papers and their marriage doing all right.
Speaker 1:Or they would try to project that their marriage is so perfect yeah, when in essence, your marriage still going and they going to the divorce court.
Speaker 2:Because you didn't listen to what they were saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but your marriage is going good, because they didn't listen to what they were saying to you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Sometimes you have to take your own advice. Yeah, yeah, been there, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think too that, when it comes down to the couples, you got to also realize that your marriage is not perfect and sometimes, when you're counseling somebody, that somebody will drop a nugget into your marriage what? And you'll be like, oh okay, I thought I was counseling you, but you just dropped a nugget in me.
Speaker 2:That's what will be going on in a marriage retreat.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they don't know how they be dropping stuff to us. We be going back. Did you hear what so-and-so said? I was thinking about that yeah. Give us something to pillow talk about, about strengthening our marriage.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, all right, that was it for tonight. That was it.
Speaker 2:We hope you guys enjoyed the show.
Speaker 1:Yep, leave it in the comments. If you got seven more or other secrets that you think besides the one that we talked about, and you can put it in the comments of the ones that you think that a spouse and marriage couple should keep within themselves, that's secret. That's what we're talking about. You should not be keeping secrets from each other. You should be keeping secrets together.
Speaker 2:Right yeah.
Speaker 1:Keeping secrets, keeping marriage secrets together. So, so don't, don't do it apart, you do it together absolutely I agree with that all right, please make sure you like and share, uh, this podcast. What you got, babe, what you got over there I never like it.
Speaker 2:We share it, but I never like.
Speaker 1:yeah, please make sure you like and share. We want to thank each and every person who was with us tonight Peaches, Izzy, Jordan and Malika, who we hope you are feeling better Morning, Paige, Rob and Janelle. We just, we just thank you so much. And, Izzy, we want to say that we love y'all so much.
Speaker 2:We love you so much, we love y'all so much so much and I'm going to call you back.
Speaker 1:We love y'all so much and you're very appreciative. We can't wait to the marriage retreat.
Speaker 2:Oh man, we got something for them, we're trying to plan it.
Speaker 1:We're trying to plan it. We're trying to have some fun this time. It's a little bit more fun this time and we down and dirty, so I just can't wait.
Speaker 2:Every two years. Boy, you kidding me. You see the problems we had the problems we had.
Speaker 1:We need help y'all yeah we need help, so we can't wait. I don't know if we can do it two years, but we thank you all. We love each and every person. We thank you for joining with us tonight and we want to say we salute you all, remember you, like and share. We're on all the podcasts, we're everywhere, so you're just going to listen to it. Give us a five-star review. Listen to it and give us a five-star review.
Speaker 2:we want to say good night and we'll see you in two weeks, in two weeks yeah, hopefully you know, hopefully the 27th is our 33rd anniversary yeah, three years, 33 years, 30 years, oh, 33 years 33,.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we are praying that we have a special guest on the 28th. We're not going to say who, but we need you all to be ready for that special. Just pray that it's special and bring your questions and bring your questions. We have a special guest. Who knows, it might be the kickoff for.
Speaker 2:It will be the kickoff of my very own podcast.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Which will be you Go Girl.
Speaker 1:Now, let's talk about it. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 2:You Go. Girl is a women's ministry and my podcast will be let's Talk About it, and it's going to be for the ladies and every now and then we'll have the guys tune in, but we'll be able to get on there and we'll talk.
Speaker 1:All right, all right, we got excited, we got a spin off.
Speaker 2:We got a spin off.
Speaker 1:All right, we love you all and we'll see you all in two weeks, god bless.
